Welcome to another installment of EV Universe’s podcast, Plug In For More! In this episode, our PIFM team sits down with the All Electric Family to chat about EV travel and camping, among other things.
Katie and Steve are early EV adopters educating the public on the benefits of EV ownership while dispelling misinformation. Their journey to owning both a Rivian R1T and a Ford F-150 Lightning has been an interesting one. Listen in on their lessons learned and words of wisdom from the All Electric Family for those looking to get into the EV space.
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EV Travel and Camping – Podcast Episode Transcript
Tom Flitton: 0:00
Welcome back to the plugin for more podcast. Today’s episode we sit down and talk with the all electric family. The electric family is a popular YouTube and Instagram and they are pretty big on Tik Tok as well you can find them there, their handle is all electric family, except on Twitter, all electric fam. Their messaging is pretty simple. It’s about EV ownership and making that transition to show that it isn’t that hard. And they’re here to share with us their story and tips and tricks that they’ve learned to help you on your transition to EV ownership.
Mike Dull: 0:30
One of the things I really thought was interesting about them and one of the reasons I first started listening to them and watching their Tik Tok videos is because they have a Rivian R1T, which is the pickup truck. And they tow a Airstream with it and that really caught my eye. They also have been in EVs for a long time. So they started out with a 2012 Model S and Model X. And they also have a Ford F-150 Lightning. So if you would like the comparisons between those two trucks, the F 150 and the Rivian, check them out.
Tom Flitton: 0:59
And also you’ll hear a little bit from Aaron Jones as well. He wanted to fanboy a little bit with the All Electric Family and joined us for the interview. So please enjoy.
Welcome to plug in for more brought to you by EVuniverse.com. EV Universe is your one-stop shop for all things related to the electric vehicle. Here on this podcast. Our goal is to educate, inspire, and hopefully make your transition into the electric vehicle marketplace a lot less intimidating. And now here are your hosts, Tom and Aaron.
Tom Flitton: 1:33
Always want to just get started into this. And I’d love to hear about what brought you guys into the EV space and how you got involved with travel and Rivian or a Tesla or what you know what stuff you’re working with.
Steve Krivolavek: 1:47
One Thanksgiving Day, I was cruising the internet and found a 2012 Tesla Model S that was a decent deal at the time. Anyways, I was so excited about it that I came back and from Kansas City to Lincoln, Nebraska about three hours to pick it up. And I this is the first charging fail of my life. I didn’t quite realize much about EVs that you I thought you just plug it into a wall and it will be charged. And anyway, so was going to drive back down to Kansas City. Well, it had like 50 or 60% battery. And I’m like, it told me to go back to the Tesla Supercharger in Lincoln, which is like five miles and like, no, no, I’m just gonna hit one on the way there’s plenty on the way home in an hour away from Lincoln, and pull again. And I just go into the restaurant and I’m looking at my looking at my phone and I’m like, what’s going on? Like it’s not charging very. So anyways, I just besides that point, like having an electric vehicle was just so much fun to me. It was something new is techy, it was, it was just, I don’t know, it was a lot of fun. It was just something different. So I fell in love with it at that point in time. We have always have a had a lust for adventure. And that was more brought on by Katie.
Katie Krivolavek: 3:29
Yeah, just always, always ready to try something new and just latest and greatest. And so yeah, we just kind of dove in from there.
Steve Krivolavek: 3:41
Yeah, my brother had a camper that got totaled. And so that’s kind of how we got into the camping side of things. And she talked me into that. I just thought it was gonna be another thing to fix and work on.
Katie Krivolavek: 3:55
Honey do list.
Tom Flitton: 3:57
Which is reasonable to assume that. Is Tik Tok is your biggest platform right now?
Katie Krivolavek: 4:04
Tom Flitton: 4:05
What was the first video there that went viral that you realized, oh man, we are on to something here?
Katie Krivolavek: 4:11
That would be actually doing the because we got a Tesla Model X. So the Model S lasted for a little while. And then we actually didn’t have any electric vehicles. And then Steve came to me with the idea of getting a Model X so we had the Model X and that could do the Christmas stuff. And I’m a little bit of a Christmas fanatic and so that was like the first thing that I posted about the car on tick tock was it doing like the Christmas show? Where does the where it opens the wings and does little dance and stuff. And that actually was the first video that I posted on Tik Tok and at the time, you know, we were just on YouTube so you know, getting 1000 views was like this big deal and posted it and all the sudden it was like 1000 views, you know, instead And I was like, oh, so we, and then we started sharing.
Steve Krivolavek: 5:08
Yeah, there was three Christmas videos.
Katie Krivolavek: 5:11
Yeah, just took off.
Tom Flitton: 5:13
And so now with the traveling you guys are doing with the Rivian and the Lightning and towing the airstream, like what are your goals around it as this is starting to take shape?
Katie Krivolavek: 5:24
See how far we can push the limit?
Steve Krivolavek: 5:28
Yeah, yeah, we just we enjoy the challenge of it, it’s something that is going to only get bigger from here moving forward. And you’re starting to see more on the RV side than realizing that and it’s pushing their technology. Although some of those things haven’t come through yet, but they’re going to be looking for assist drives and stuff like that, which honestly, it’ll be good for all vehicles, whether it’s just a regular gas burner or diesel, or even a hybrid, because it’s going to what I understand the industry, that side of it, they’re just trying to get you to have the same amount of range or efficiency that you had without pulling a trailer, it’s only gonna get bigger, whether it’s just for EVs or not, but you know, EVs are obviously the most difficult with towing and so we want to take on that big challenge and, you know, grow that community as much as possible and hopefully just provide a lot of information that people can make that decision for themselves when they want to enter that community. And so that so that’s why we started the EV RV rally to so we could get that community together.
Tom Flitton: 6:52
Can you tell me more about that rally?
Katie Krivolavek: 6:55
Yeah, so it was just an idea we kind of had on a whim to try to see, you know, who would? How many people out there towing would want to get together and hang out and talk shop and you know, tell our stories. And so we had the idea in August, found a campground that happened to have some room and we went and in October and Amana, Iowa and had about 10 different setups, so 10, different EVs towing something that came out. And we were all in this one place and go talk shop and we got to meet the guy, a couple other guys from Lightship RV, which is a really interesting RV company that is a brand new, like they’re just getting their funding and everything. And so, you know, we just spent the weekend showing each other, you know, what we were pulling how we were pulling, telling stories of where we’d been, you know, the charging horror stories, how low Have you pulled into the charger, with all that kind of stuff. So it was, it was a lot of fun. And we’re, we’re hoping we’re everybody that was there had a blast and is wanting to do it again. So we’re actually just starting to, we think we have dates and hopefully location set for it. So we are going to be looking at doing one again next year, making a little bit more bigger and a little bit more formal. Because it was, it was a lot of fun. Everybody had a good time.
Tom Flitton: 8:26
Aaron Jones: 8:27
What I was going to ask, especially since people are going to be kind of trying to decide between the Rivian between the Lightning, Model X, did the Rivian in the lightning booth come equipped with the tow package was that an add on you guys had to do?
Steve Krivolavek: 8:41
The Rivian has, you know, you can’t really choose a whole lot with Rivian and it does come standard with the tow package. The lightning, you have to get I believe is like the Lariat. Well, maybe it’s extended range. And then you have to have the tow package in what that gets you. My understanding is just like an extra is cooling for the battery. It’s some sort of extra thing for the battery. And then yeah, so you have to add that in. And it’s the Platinum is rated at 8500 when they first released this they said 10,000 But then you must pull back which is the extra equipment or what. And then the Lariat with extended range battery is 10,000 and then the Rivian is 11,000.
Aaron Jones: 9:48
Yeah, it’s just a standard hitch and receiver. I mean nothing else.
Steve Krivolavek: 9:52
Aaron Jones: 9:53
There’s no fancy technology.
Katie Krivolavek: 9:56
You know the Tesla had an interesting catch on at the Model X does but yeah.
Steve Krivolavek: 10:04
Well, the Rivian if you look at the some of the photos or videos, you can see how it’s tucked underneath quite aways and I thought that was going to be a bit of an issue, just with, you know, the proximity of everything, but it really isn’t. And, you know, I’m assuming the reason that they did that is all what is the departure angle or whatever that’s called? I think that’s why. Yeah, yeah. But interesting enough, the the Rivian is more stable than F 150. I would not have thought that going into this.
Katie Krivolavek: 10:43
Yeah, and it’s, it’s funny, because when we first started posting, you know, pictures of the Rivian and the airstream together, I mean, everybody was like, That thing’s overloaded, you’re a danger to society, you know. And then we’re like, actually, it’s like, well, within its towing limits, because it’s just the size, it doesn’t look like it can handle a 30 foot trailer, but man, it it is solid going down the road, and it’s well within its limits.
Tom Flitton: 11:12
Aaron Jones: 11:13
So kind of rolling into that. You guys spend a lot of time responding to these, these guys or these people on Tik Tok? What’s the biggest thing, the biggest misconception you find yourself kind of educating on daily?
Katie Krivolavek: 11:29
Um, it’s that? Well, it probably honestly ends up being the time factor how long it takes, we get a lot of, you know, well, it took your entire vacation, or it’s, you know, it took you 10 hours longer or something like that, or, you know, it takes 12 hours to charge every time and you’re like, No, actually it doesn’t. So we that’s probably our biggest one is the time. And then just range would be the next one after that people thinking, you know, when you’re towing that, you can go, you know, 80 miles an hour, and, you know, we watch TfL we love the stuff that they do, but they put up a video that you can only go 80 miles of range towing, and it’s like, you know, we want to put like an asterisk and be like, Well, okay, but there’s so many factors that can go into that where you can make it go, you know, you can go longer, and you can get up to 150 miles when you’re towing. So that’s probably the two the two biggest things.
Steve Krivolavek: 12:30
Yeah, you could get a lot further if we didn’t have a 30 foot Airstream because the reality is, you know, if we had a smaller camper, we we’d make it look real good. Yeah. So it’s, it’s, it’s one of those things, but we bought it for our family. We bought the trucks exactly how we want them. You know, the Rivian’s got the 20 inch off road tires. Like that’s, that’s the worst efficiency.
Katie Krivolavek: 13:03
I did not choose options for aerodynamics and efficiency. That’s for sure.
Steve Krivolavek: 13:07
Yeah. It’s, it is what it is. Yeah. So yeah.
Tom Flitton: 13:10
Now, did you have any fears of starting EV travel, like with towing the trailer, and like all we talk about these misconceptions? And then did any of these other fears come true? Or what would you tell the people that are thinking about wanting to do the same thing? To help them get over that hump?
Katie Krivolavek: 13:24
Yeah, it’s so he’s kind of been more fearless than I have, I have definitely been the one that like has more range anxiety. And truth be told, with the Model S, originally, I made him get rid of that thing. And, you know, it was it was an early Tesla, though. So it was what it was a 2012. Right. So I mean, it was it was an early Tesla.
Aaron Jones: 13:49
Non autopilot, no heated seats.
Katie Krivolavek: 13:52
And, you know, we, my family lives in Kansas City, and we live in Lincoln, Nebraska. And, you know, we’re not really at the cutting edge of charging technology out here, you know, so Chargers were few and far between, and we would drive from Lincoln, Nebraska to Kansas City, and the car just didn’t have the range, you know, so we had to stop and charge on the way to Kansas City. And I just, I, we had little tiny babies at the time, and I was just like, I’m over this thing, like, we can’t do this. And so he had to kind of convince me to when we went to go get the Model X, you know, he’s like, it can make it to Kansas City without having to stop to charge. That was like, Okay, I’ll give this a try again. And then we got the Tesla and you know, to most most people considering going EV, I would say to go Tesla first just because of the charging infrastructure. Because we got the Tesla. It was super easy to charge, you know, no issues. I mean, ever With charging with the Tesla, and it was great and we loved it. Even with towing, you know, the biggest thing was was because on the tesla you pull in forward, it’s a little bit more difficult to get creative with pulling in to arc sorry, you don’t pull them forward, you pull them backwards. So when you pull them backwards, it’s harder to get creative to charge without having to unhook. And so that was our biggest thing with towing. So then we, you know, once I fell in love with a Tesla, and then he showed me the Rivian, you know, way back before it was a thing, it was just this idea that was out there and told me that they could tow a bigger trailer and all of this stuff. And so I was I was in. And, you know, so we waited for that. And actually, the reason we ended up with a lightning reservation two was because we were supposed to get the Rivian in 2020. But it didn’t come out and it didn’t come out. So then he put in the reservation for the lightning so we could tow something bigger. And then we ended up getting both of them within like three months of each other. So that’s when you start getting into the issues when we started getting on this the CCS network is when we saw our first kind of hiccups with charging and having to worry a little bit more about that range anxiety and stuff
Aaron Jones: 16:26
I was going to ask, next question was so when did it?
Katie Krivolavek: 16:29
When you have to drive along I-80 with a CCS go bad? What have one has it gone bad? Network in Nebraska?
Steve Krivolavek: 16:38
Yeah, the Electrify America, unfortunately, isn’t the most reliable. And I don’t have fear with range anxiety. So when, you know, I’m just like, I called Electrify America, I check the app. It’s working and, and then 10 minutes out from the charger. Look at my app, and it’s down. All of them. That’s when a is a problem.
Katie Krivolavek: 17:13
And you’re towing a trailer at that point. Yeah. So we were in the Lightning that time around.
Steve Krivolavek: 17:18
So it took us a couple of years for it to go bad.
Katie Krivolavek: 17:23
That’s great. Yeah. Of towing.
Aaron Jones: 17:24
Yeah. I mean, yeah. That’s about I mean.
Steve Krivolavek: 17:28
But yeah, we, that was a unique situation, too. Normally, I would have just went to a campground stayed the night. Because that was always our backup plan. But, yeah, it we had somebody ahead of us. And they said they charged it this particular charger that wasn’t saying it was online yet. And so I yeah, I dropped the trailer and went, you know, down the road, with, you know, not even enough range to get there, thinking I could charge and get back because we’re really trying to get out to Colorado. Okay. And yeah, so.
Katie Krivolavek: 18:10
And I mean, we’ve made a few, a few mistakes in that, because we were trying to push it and get there on a timeframe. And so we wanted to just move on, we wanted to get further down the road, we wanted to get into Denver, stay the night in Denver, and then go on up to the mountains. And so we were just trying to push it too hard when we knew we shouldn’t have because across the parking lot from there’s a hotel, just I mean, across the street from where that Electrify America sits in Ogallala, Nebraska, and it’s a J 1772. So it’s slow, you know, you’re it’s gonna, it’s gonna take you a while to get any charge. But instead of just going over there and getting some charge, I mean, we had our camper, we could have had dinner, we could have, you know, just taken our time and gone on when we decided we had enough charge to get to the next charger. But instead, we wanted to get there faster. So Steve went on to this Julesburg charger and you know, dropped the trailer, the kids and I stayed in the camper in the Walmart parking lot. And then he calls and you know, he’s like, Well, I’m at the charger, but the truck is dead. And the chargers not working. And so, you know, then all of the well we should have started kicking in but you know, he ended up having to have the car towed back to it was a J 1772. Right. Yeah. So he had it towed back to J 1772. In Oglala it was 100 degrees. So, you know, and we didn’t bring any generators with us or anything. So we ended up staying in a hotel. It was just a whole a whole ordeal but looking back we would have done it differently and not been stranded by You know, you live and you learn.
Steve Krivolavek: 20:01
The lovely thing is we get to document it and throw it on the internet. And then everybody gets to, you know, make decisions after the fact.
Katie Krivolavek: 20:09
Yes. Learn from our mistakes, please.
Aaron Jones: 20:12
Yeah, I think that’s the coolest thing is that people are now watching this and they’re going, you know, half of the crowd is going on and why we don’t buy and, and the other half of the crowds like, oh, I almost did that.
Katie Krivolavek: 20:26
Steve Krivolavek: 20:27
What are in our travels, I had somebody come up to me and say, I can’t believe you release that video that just make things look bad. And I’m just like, well, I we just want to be true with our community. And so it’s just, you know, it is what it is like, we were ding dongs.
Tom Flitton: 20:52
That’s really cool. Because the reality is, it’s not perfect. And you got to know how to work around it or not, or not even work around it, it’s just a matter of, it’s just a little bit different way of thinking about it. And yeah, you know, I, one of the questions I often ask is like, is between any sort of driving in whether it’s travel or just commuting in a electric vehicle versus a gas vehicle? Is there parts of a gas vehicle you miss? I mean, I don’t want to be an EV fanboy all the time. Because, yeah, it’s just trying to figure out, are there parts of it that are better.
Steve Krivolavek: 21:25
I honestly miss the sound of it. There’s no, just that the instant torque on electric vehicles is amazing. But there’s also something about just a gas vehicle. And I’m sure it’s just reminiscing from, you know, learning how to drive and all that stuff. Like, it’s just nostalgic. But there’s something about that. And there’s also like something about, you know, even if it’s as silly as putting in a k&n air filter to get more airflow, you know, like, just silly things like that. I used to do more to my vehicle than that, but it’s just like, just modifying it and doing stuff like that to make it, you know, perform better. Like, that’s a lot of fun tinkering with that. And so, yeah, there are those aspects. And, you know, I grew up, you know, change your own oil and change and brakes and stuff like that. And so, you know, miss that a little bit. I can’t say that I miss out a lot. But you know, With the nostolgia, I get that.
Katie Krivolavek: 22:36
I don’t know, I don’t know that there’s much that I miss pulling into my garage, my nice, warm, toasty garage this time of year and plugging my car in and walking away from it negates, like all things. Like, nope, that’s, this is great. I will stick with this. I mean, I do I guess I miss our F 350. A little bit just because it was big, and it was bad. And it could do you know, like, it was just like American Truck, you know, so I did like that. But I felt like I had some cred when I was listening to my country music.
Aaron Jones: 23:10
Looking down at the other people.
Katie Krivolavek: 23:14
But I yeah, I just the convenience of it, especially in the day to day just negates, you know, anything that I miss from a gas vehicle. So.
Aaron Jones: 23:26
So both the Lightning and the Rivian. Do they both have preconditioning? So they’re they warm up before you can get into them in the morning? Yeah, because I just started getting cold about North Carolina. So I had to walk out in my gym clothes to start my car this morning to get it. And I’m like, Man, I just had an electric car. Warm.
Tom Flitton: 23:47
Poor you. 60 degrees.
Katie Krivolavek: 23:56
Six feet of snow outside my window. Yeah, no. And that is really, both of them having.
Steve Krivolavek: 24:09
It is very nice. Especially when you get into these winter months. That’s yeah, it is. It’s amazing. The Rivian is a bit more slick the Ford, I feel like runs off of the gas or ice, whatever you want to call it. platform or press start and the Ford Pass app. And then, you know, says is starting and may take 30 seconds. And you don’t really know if it’s going. But every single time it’s good. It’s been going.
Tom Flitton: 24:39
So someone who’s on the fence. They’re not sure if they want to be out by an EV. What’s your pitch? How do you how do you help them work through that decision making process?
Katie Krivolavek: 24:48
Once you get out there and you do it a couple times? It you it’s just a little bit of a shift in mindset. You just have to think about things a little bit differently. And once you make that shift, it feels normal and if feels me like, there’s no, there’s no issue to it.
Steve Krivolavek: 25:05
Yeah, I always tell people that they should, you know, kind of dip their toes in slowly to have one electric vehicle. And then, you know, another vehicle if they’ve always been used to, you know, a gas vehicle in in do it that way and you know, take one on a trip, you know the EV on a trip one time that maybe isn’t as crucial to get their exact time and see how that goes. But your day to day, I mean, yeah, I know, we make it look like we’re traveling every day. But yeah, the day to day, like, it’s, it really is a no brainer. I’m very technical, too. So I’ll talk them through the charging aspect of it, because I get worried about that a lot of people think you can just plug it into your regular outlet and be fine. And some people can do that and be fine, but I just want to make sure so they don’t get this electric vehicle and then they’re just complaining because they’re still having to go somewhere to charge it once or twice a week in so that that can be come problematic. So I talked him through that I it just to make sure that it’s right for him. So my, my sales pitch is just, you know, talking them through it, and I want them to make the decision that’s best for them and their family. And it doesn’t doesn’t really matter to me. Whether they do it or not.
Aaron Jones: 26:32
You’re anyone’s back pocket.
Katie Krivolavek: 26:33
Do your research and check there’s there’s enough YouTube videos, enough information out there these days, and go find somebody that’s you know, telling you information that’s actually living with it on the day to day and and learn about the car because there’s enough information out there to know before you you know what you’re getting into before you buy it. And I think for most people, it’s going to work and it will work well and and be pretty darn easy to make the transition.
Aaron Jones: 26:59
And just as someone personally who’s on the fence, I don’t mean I’m on the fence of whether or not I want an EV it’s more of which EV do I want. Turo, Turo is your best friend like you can go in, you know, $100 a night is a heck of a lot cheaper than a 35,000 car you don’t own?
Katie Krivolavek: 27:19
Aaron Jones: 27:20
So go take your model three, or your EV6 out for a day or two see how you have to drive around. Me personally, I don’t drive more than 200 miles a week. So I can charge what a lot of people who are driving anywhere from six to 700 miles a week or greater than that maybe this car is not right for you. But there could be another EV on the market. So like you guys said, get your information from someone who lives with it daily and then make it a part of your daily life. It’s not as expensive as a lot of people think.
Katie Krivolavek: 27:57
Yeah, I mean, when you get into the traveling piece of it and stuff and even you know us going from home to a campground that’s 50 miles down the road, you know, especially when we’re charging at home, there starts to be a pretty significant savings between taking an F 350 to do that job or taking the Rivian to do that job. So you know, there’s just a lot of factors that go into it.
Aaron Jones: 28:20
Looking into the future of EVs. What are you guys most excited about? What are you most optimistic about? I mean, what what’s got you guys just biting at the bit?
Steve Krivolavek: 28:30
Yeah. Well, more money being pushed into the industry as far as your legacy automakers. Yeah, they’re gonna do their thing in the beginning, but eventually they’re gonna have to really be innovative and push the limits with stuff. You know, I liked the idea of GMs 800 volt system. I don’t know if that’s the right way to go. I have not tested that but I’m super excited to test that out. The only thing I will say for towing aspect is they put the charger on the back. So that’ll be interesting. The charging port on the back in as Katie stated earlier, that was a bit difficult with towing but I’m assuming like Rivian is doing in the future they’re going to have a towing, you know, specific charger where you can just pull in, so it’s probably not going to be that big a deal. That would be something that I’d be excited to see. In the future. There’s obviously going to be $1.2 trillion. Not all of it it’s going to EVs but there’s, you know, lots of billions.
Aaron Jones: 29:46
Say that’s, that’s a lot.
Tom Flitton: 29:48
Lots of zeroes.
Steve Krivolavek: 29:50
So it’ll be interesting to see how much they actually pump into that and they’re actually innovative. I am a bit worried that they don’t have their supply chains down to actually keep these chargers going, you know, they’re gonna put a bunch of them out there and, you know, but anyways, there’s gonna be more chargers. So obviously, your probability of getting one that’s working is going to increase. And, yeah, that’s, um, I’m excited about all the pickups that are coming out, I, you know, would like to have maybe an SUV or something like that. But right now, just with all the trucks coming out, that’s why we have two trucks. And we will probably have that for the next year or so, where we have, you know, two trucks, just test them out, you know, putting them through their paces, and I want to see, you know, some of these new innovative most importantly, for me, the 800 volt.
Aaron Jones: 30:52
Yeah, the Polestar three will be out really soon, you guys can get that SUV.
Katie Krivolavek: 30:57
Yeah, I, I will be pushing for an SUV again, in the future, just you know, Mom car, but, you know, the trucks work out well now. And, you know, like, like Steve said, the charging and, and having to be more readily available. And, you know, I think some of my excitement comes from the changes that we have already seen from the time that we first had an EV to now, and how different it has gotten and how much better it has gotten in that short period of time. So you know, the changes are coming and it is getting better. And so to watch that happen so quickly, you know, and thinking of different places that we can go once you know the the infrastructure is there, and it’s going to be happening pretty quickly.
Tom Flitton: 31:43
Guys, I want to make sure that our listeners can find you. Where can we find you on your socials?
Katie Krivolavek: 31:49
So we’re on pretty much everything is All Electric Family. So YouTube, Tik Tok, Instagram. I guess Twitter is All Electric Fam, because you have to limit your number of letters. But yeah, just on all the socials, we’re All Electric Family.
Tom Flitton: 32:07
Perfect. I’ll make sure we get links in our description of the podcast. And so it was an absolute joy talking to you guys. It’s been fun. there’s anything else you want to make sure that we know the listeners know?
Katie Krivolavek: 32:17
Don’t be afraid to get out there and try it if you you know, they talking about people on the fence, like just just go give it a shot and see see how it goes.
Steve Krivolavek: 32:26
Yeah. I was told by my brother to go test drive a model S. And I’m like, Oh, those things look like spaceships. I’m not sure that’s right for me. And then I sat in the thing and I pressed on the accelerator and I’m like, Okay, I want one like that’s all. Yes, the instant torque and it was just cool technology. So you’re right that the Turo idea’s great that Aaron was talking about that. That would be something great or just go to a dealership that has an electric vehicle if you just want to take a short drive and test drive that cool.
Aaron Jones: 33:04
I look forward to hopefully having you guys on for some guest highlights too. At some point in time in the future.
Steve Krivolavek: 33:10
We’d love to.
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